I have an active sex life and my fiance does everything possible to help me reach orgasm. Unfortunately, despite his efforts, my response is very unpredictable. I only achieve clitoral orgasm sometimes and have never achieved a vaginal one. I purchased read your book. I have the fish oil supplements and multi vitamins. I exercise regularly and eat well. I just purchased the GyneFlex. Do I have to do anything differently during intercourse to feel the effects of this exercise?!!?

You should see improved libido within six weeks of starting the diet (four weeks at full dose of fish oil).

However, vaginal orgasm ability takes longer, and is very much dependent both on the strength of your PC muscles and the process of waking them up. I would say if you are able to shut level #3 of the Gyneflex, you have the requisite muscle tone (that's the darker pink one). Then it's just letting your body get used to it.

As for vaginal orgasms during intercourse, they can be achieved either through stimulation of the G-spot or the cul de sac (although many men do not have the length to reach the cul de sac).

Thanks for the response. However, you did not say if I am supposed to be doing something during intercourse? Am I supposed to be flexing my PC muscles? Is there a certain position that helps stimulate the G-spot? Is the G-Spot closer to the front of the vagina and the cul de sac deeper within?

I'm thinking they both have been stimulated but that it would take FOREVER to achieve orgasm that way. That's what I'm hoping the diet and Gyneflex will help with. Am I on the right track?

BTW...I am so jealous of you it's not even funny. I have always had the desire for sex, still do. But knowing the possibilities that exist I want it more than ever!!

You don't need to flex your muscles to have a vaginal orgasm, although once you are easily vaginally orgasmic you can have an orgasm flexing your muscles around your partner's penis while you both remain still, which is fun.

The G-spot is the rough patch just a couple inches in on the front vaginal wall. Stimulation depends on the size of your partner, different positions are good for different men. The cul de sac is at the very top of the vagina, up above the cervix.

I felt a definite increased libido the first few weeks on the diet. At that time, I was very particular about staying away from grains and junk food.

I had a 'bump' where I didn't take the pills for a week and didn't eat well. But I've read several times that you say the diet isn't as critical as the pills. I have been more regimen about them. I can't get back that initial feeling of wanting sex all the time and being so attracted to everything about my fiance that I couldn't take my hands off of him. I even was at the point one day while driving and thinking of him that I thought I was going to cum any second. It was something I've never felt before.

I have also been doing the GyneFlex for 2 months, almost twice a week...sometimes more, sometimes less. I am using level 4 and can close it probably half way.

I am frustrated. I am wondering if I need to be that person that doesn't stray from the diet. I thought that would just impact orgasm, not necessarily interest. I loved that feeling and want it back.

I also feel that I am close to vaginal orgasms. There are several times during intercourse that I feel fast pulses but I never get that feeling of orgasm like I do with clitoral stimulation. I know you say this is something that takes time but I feel like I've been at this same stage for a while and perhaps like it's somewhat diminished.

Huntng40s where have you been? Your posts always make me laugh and give me encouragement?!?!

The food part of the diet affects interest. Just taking the fish oil alone will improve libido in general, but if you want to have the very high constant arousal, where you can't take your hands off your man and drive around on the verge of orgasm--that takes the whole thing, including the food.

Frankly that's why I keep a candy bowl at my desk at work, because sometimes it gets too much for me! Food is enough to bring the high libido down to a more moderate level, at least temporarily.

The strictly orgasmic part of the diet is more dependent on muscle tone.

It depends on what a woman wants. Lots of women simply want increased libido at the time of sex, increased in enjoyment. The Cliffs' Notes version of my diet is fine for that. But if you want to be a sex goddess, you need to do the whole thing, unfortunately.

Marrena,

Thanks for the clarification. I definitely misunderstood about the diet/pill combination. I do have a huge sweet tooth and that is what makes this diet difficult for me. However, the feelings of complete sexuality, where I didn't feel inhibited by my imperfect form, was an awesome feeling. I will get back to as little carbs as possible and keep in the the am after my workout. Hopefully this adjustment is all I need to get back to where I was before!!

Thanks for never making me feel like my questions are a waste of time or insignificant!! With all that you get, I'm sure it's annoying!

I personally benefit from this forum too. It's hard for me to stay motivated on the diet, not having a regular man. There's a stigma.

So it's encouraging to read other women being on it too.

I will say I do get a little tired of everyone always asking about their particular fish oil dosage, but I generally welcome all questions! And I love feedback, good and bad.

Well, it was Tuesday that you helped me realize diet is all too important in keeping my libido up. That day, I went back to the limited carbs and sugary foods.

Yesterday it started coming back to me...the desire for sex. I was very responsive to oral sex. Overall, my clitoral orgasms are definitely easier to achieve and more intense.

Later, we had sex again, with no attention on my clitoris. At these times the pleasure varies. Sometimes it's very intense but I usually have a feeling that I can't 'get over the hump'. Last night was one of the times that for some reason I felt the need to 'stop' and my vaginal muscles were pulsating like crazy. At that point, I could have been done. We kept going, he ultimately came and it was incredible. I felt satisfied but not like I had an orgasm.

I can't explain it but wonder if it's part of the vaginal 'awakening' you've mentioned. You said it could take months to obtain vaginal orgasm ability so I am skeptical.

I guess either way, it is an amazing feeling that I've very rarely felt in the past and I am just going to go with it!

One other thing...you say the diet will increase sensitivity. Yes, I've noticed that I am more sensitive. However, I've also noticed much more sensitivity AFTER orgasm. To the point that my clitoris can't be touched for several hours. Have other people made this comment as well??

Hey MafiaP!

I needed to take a break due to work issues.. finding one, that is!!

I haven't nailed one yet, but have an interview coming up (unlike me- cumming, that is) this week and I hope it goes well.

I'm so glad you gained back what you'd lost just by cutting the carbs & sugary stuff! Hooray for you!

My guess is if you keep up with the Gyneflex you will shortly be having vaginal O's. I mean it sounds like you are on the verge anyway, so... let 'er rip!

Oh, and just so you know, I've been at that point of "I think I'd better stop" also and let me tell you... go for it! Really if you can get past that feeling you will most likely experience something pretty amazing. It's kind of scary to get past, and the 'need to stop' is a fear- fear of the unknown (At least for me it is/was. You may be in a different place than I was) and ya know what???

That unknown was FUN! It was the most intense orgasm I'd ever had, nearly painful and sooo worth it!

Granted, it was a while ago- hence my handle Huntng4Os!

Be well and excercise your patience, my friend!

The time involved to develop vaginal orgasm ability is dependent on a woman's PC muscle tone at the start. If she's already close, it might not take long at all. There's also how open a woman is to accepting the new sensations.

At first, vaginal orgasms do not feel like orgasms. There is something like a deep muscle ache inside the vagina that grows, almost like a Charlie horse, that can only be helped by having a penis inside you. At first, the only feeling is similar to a pulsating shudder and a feeling of relief afterwards. Over time, the feeling grows to a full-on orgasm, but not the sharpness of a clitoral orgasm. It feels more like what porn starlets seem to be experiencing when they fake orgasm.

I am going to post some links in the Other Sex Tips section, of women having the two types of orgasms. I think that would explain it best. Hopefully women won't mind that I am posting porn links.

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Hey Huntng40s! So glad you're back! Hope the interview goes well. Where I'm from, the market is so low I think it's underground! Fortunately, I don't have to support myself!!

I honestly don't feel I am fearful, if anything, I am thinking about it too much! I truly feel I am closer than ever and I just need to be patient (not one of my qualities). I honestly enjoy sex more than ever and I need to go with that.

Thanks for the encouragement!

MP

Marrena,

I am still wondering about the sensitivity issue. This whole section in the book was very interesting to me. Since clitoral O's were the only ones I knew, learning that my frequency diminishes over time was devastating, but helped me understand why I could be 'ready to go' and not able to O!

It seems I am REALLY sensitive lately. Before, although I couldn't reach orgasm, it was okay to try. Now, I know I need to take a day in between or it won't even be comfortable. Is this normal on the diet?

Hi MP.

Yup, I'm back and digging for a job! LOL Good description of the market. "underground" So true.

I'm hoping the interview goes well also, and am running around dropping resumes and names as best I can.

I personally haven't noticed any excessive sensitivity in my clitoral area, just the usual. I think it is so great knowing how other women respond to this diet- so many different ways! Amazing.

I hear you on the patience issue; I'm still waiting until I can order a gyneflex! Grrr.... Ah well, soon enough I suppose.

As for the 'fearful' part- my bad. Sorry. I do know I had to get over a mental hump myself so that's why I mentioned it; again it just goes to show how different we all are!

Take care and keep us updated when you can!

Marrena,

I just read one of your comments with Mafiaprincess regarding you being tired of everyone asking about their particular fish oil dosage. Being that I am one of those people that you got tired of, my questions to you is what did you expect, and why did you start a forum? Was it to only boost your ego and read people singing your praises?

Number 1: I am sorry, but as informative as your book may seem, you were not very clear about the dosage per height and weight, and obviously I am not the only one who feels this way or else you would not be getting so many posts to be ‘tired of’.

Number 2: How do you expect to put out information like this and not get any tiresome questions? It is insulting to have a negative attitude towards your readers for having these types of questions! Moreover, is this how you expect to get support for what you are doing?

All I have left to say is that I am very sorry to have 1). Brought your book, 2.) Have the nerve to ask you any questions concerning something YOU wrote about which I am unfamiliar with, and 3.) To have bothered you and made you tired.

I hope that you will feel a little rested as you have one less person (me) to make you tired.

After doing some research, you are not the only one helping women and men to learn how to reach orgasms and you know this yourself or else you would not be asking for support to keep your book alive. How do you expect your readers to spread the word about you if you are too tired to answer their questions? You can stay the best-kept secret as far as I am concerned.

For others who may read this, do not judge me. Just wait until you have a question that she is too tire of answering and then you will see yourself. This is the thanks some of us get for giving someone like Marrena our hard-earned dollars.