I thought I would write up my thoughts on both since I have used both. I am now on Gyneflex 6, since I can flex the 5 almost all the way bar a few milimeters. I can flex the 6 to fit *very* softly around my middle finger, which is not suprising considering I'm 21, never had children, and a virgin until a year ago!

In the past I have used wieghts attatched to these-
http://www.annsummers.com/single.asp?gid=7&cat=1947&pid=4588

which are about the same size as a medium size stone egg I think.

For those starting out, a weight of around 430-450g is around the same ability to close a gyneflex 5. The both have their pros and cons, and here they are

Gyneflex pro's

* Very easy to clean considering it's made of plastic.

*Seems to be very durable and has no fiddly bits

*Doesn't make a noise

*You can relax in bed and read or whatever, and can pause in between sets without to much hassle.

Cons

* Cost

*Only goes up to strength 6 hehe, which I will be past in a about a month or two I think.


Vaginal weights put on jiggle balls

Pro's

*The strength you can go up to is basically limitless! I think weights are for the hardcore enthusiasts.

Pro/con

Resting between sets is difficult due to the standing position. I think for women with bladder problems this is a bonus. This thing does not let you rest for a second! This is a pro/con depending on your prefrences.

In my opinion, holding a heavy weight in is more difficult than trying to close a strong gyneflex. With the gyneflex, you just have to squeeze hard and relax. But with the weights, you have to learn to relax enough to lift the weight up and down, but not relax too much or it will drop out! This takes a lot of muscle isolation, and takes mental discipline. As I said, you have to concentrate on what your body is doing or the weight will fall out. If your going to sneeze you have to hold the weight in with your hand or it will come shooting out!!!!! Eventually, it does get easier, but I still don't recommend reading a book while doing it becuase of the concentration issue. I believe that weights are better for bladder problems becuase they develop muscle awarness and you do the excersises standing up.

Cons

*Difficult to wash- they are made of silicon and therefore cannot be washed with ordinary strong soap and hot water.

*Not very durable becuase again the silicon is delicate

*They make a noise like a loud baby's rattle!!!!!!! If you are careful enough you can avoid this. But I've attatched a weight that was too heavy before and it slipped out and made a hell of a noise on the ground

If you are lucky enough to have a stone egg with a hole drilled in it, the none of these cons will apply.

Well there you are. Zane, I shall be writing to the Gyneflex company to ask if they'll make a gyneflex 7,8, 9 and 10!!!!!!

I think the most important thing is that the flexing motion used in the Gyneflex and Kegelmaster is closer to what is experienced during a vaginal orgasm. I think it helps to sexually wake up the vagina.

I'm surprised you mentioned cost, a set of the Gyneflex is pretty cheap as far as typical PC muscle exerciser doohickeys go.

If you like the idea of weights, however, you should invest in a tantric stone egg. Lou Paget sells them

http://www.loupaget.com/item.php3?id=65

Oh yes the cost is great in comparison with other similar exercisers. But with the weights you would only have to buy one set of jiggle balls for £10 (don't know how much that is is dollars), and then put as much weight on it as you like.

And whilst I was doing my exercises today, I did think that flexing the gyneflex had a similar feeling to what the vagina does in orgasm. Both are good in different ways.

I just want stronger sets of gyneflexes!!!!!

Well if you want to be spendy, you can get the Kegelmaster and buy their set of extra strong springs. That would cost a LOT though.