I read this over in the men's section:

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Originally posted by Marrena:
I'm trying to get you down closer to a one-and-a-half to one ratio, which is the way both fatty acids occur in nature.

But you say the ratio is the same for men and women.I just checked my fish oil caps. Each 1200mg capsule (yeh they're kinda big) has 216 EPA and 144 DHA.

I this the one-and-a-half to one ratio you recommend? (am i doing my math write?)

I take ten of these a day: 2160 EPA and 1440 DHA.

I did wiegh 160 lbs but am now at 130 lbs

I take the high doses to address health issues:
arthritis, high cholesterol, and congential heart condition.

I follow a diet very similiar to yours but it was developed for me by my fitness/wellness coach to address my health issues.

The good new is I am off all my heart meds and went from a size 10 to a size 4 and feel great.

But I haven't had any noticable effects in my libido, erotic thoughts or orgasms.

I was really excited when I first learned about your diet because I was already doing most of the things in it. I did add the chocolate, thinking this was the missing link. But no real effect (except I don't feel guilty about eating chocolate now, I always told my husband 'women need chocolate' and I was right!)

Do you think adding more DHA would help?

I also should mention I take a multi vita, 1500 mg of magnisium, 60 mg zinc and 60 CoQ10 daily.

I've been doing Kegals as part of my exercise program and my hubby says he can feel the difference. He also tells me my skin is super soft and delightful to caress.

But my orgasm still take too long (usually 20 minutes of stimulation) and I feel I have to wait a day or 2 before I can have another one (or it is just too hard). Plus my memory sucks (I am only 45).

Any suggestions would be great. As I said I've been doing something like your diet for 2 years to address my other health issues, but a boost in the libido and orgasms would be a really nice benefit.

Could it be the DHA?

That is really odd.

I don't think my diet will increase your orgasmic frequency. I'm 42 and I usually only have a clitoral orgasm once every three days. As women get older, clitoral orgasm frequency decreases. They are easier to have than at any other time of my life, however. I can usually have one in under five minutes now with just manual stimulation.

Of course I also have forty or fifty vaginal orgasms a day and my libido is very high.

It sounds like you are doing everything right. Your libido should be perking up, on that diet. How often do you want sex, do you lubricate, do you have sexual thoughts during the day, etc?

It's been like that for as long as I can remember. I thought it would get easier over the years but it has stayed about the same.

The only time there has been any big differences is when I was pregnant. I even jokingly asked my obgyn if she could bottle the state of my hormones so I could take it when I was not pregnant cause sex felt sooooo good at that time. Orgasms were easier, frequency was not a porblem and they felt terrific! I guess it was natures way of making up for the other discomforts of pregnacy.

I only have a few days in the month when I have sexual thoughts. I have never thought about how often I want sex, it gets down to how often I say yes or no to my hubby, he approaches me almost daily. Lubrication is rarely a problem.

You never answered about the amount of DHA. Do I need more?

No, you don't need any more DHA.

I hear you about the orgasms during pregnancy!

You might not be having desire if you are having sex every day because your husband is caring enough to give you orgasms.

You could have your hormones checked, but if your body is able to have a clitoral orgasm every other day, I doubt that's it.

I would try for gaining vaginal orgasms if I were you. That way you can still enjoy sex without having to have a clitoral orgasm every time. For that you need to strengthen the muscles, you need to get the Gyneflex.

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Originally posted by Marrena:
You might not be having desire if you are having sex every day because your husband is caring enough to give you orgasms.

My husband wishes it was everyday. He approaches me nearly everyday and he loves me to climax and does everything he can to help me to, but I put him off, so it is maybe once or twice a week if he is really insistant.

I find it to be just too much work for me. I suppose I am being selfish because he will spend 30 to 45 minutes just massaging me in a not sexual way. I love the massages. He massages me nearly mostly everyday, it really helps with my joint discomforts, but then I just want to go to sleep.

I wish I had the kind of "got to have it" desire you talk about. I really envy you. I think if I had that kind of desire I wouldn't put my hubby of so much, but instead appreciate his interest and take advatage of it more often.

My vaginal muscles are pretty strong. I am not sure about vaginal orgasms. If they are not as intense as a clitoral orgasm how can you tell you've had one?

Your husband doesn't happen to have a brother, does he?

At first with vaginal orgasms there is this strong actual ache inside the vagina, and then the aching goes away after a shuddering feeling. As your body gets used to vaginal orgasms and your muscles get stronger, this initial response gets much deeper, and there won't be any question you are having vaginal orgasms. To get a feel for the different between the two types, you may want to see the thread down in the Other Sex Tips section on this topic. However, it does contain porn links, so don't watch if you are offended by porn.

I strongly encourage you to get the Gyneflex and try it out. Many women who think they have strong PC muscles from Kegels find out when using the Gyneflex that there is room for improvement.

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Originally posted by VBmama:

But my orgasm still take too long (usually 20 minutes of stimulation) and I feel I have to wait a day or 2 before I can have another one (or it is just too hard).

Sorry to butt in here, but 20 mins. seems like the ideal amount of time to me. I much prefer it when my wife takes a while to cum because it is more powerful for her and also, the longer it takes - the longer we are "at it"! You will probably attest to the fact that your husband is not worried about how much "effort" he has to put in. We love it!

I just finished watching Ellen clip. And I am thinking wow that could be me.

She looks like she is enjoying the stimulation but can't quite let it overtake her. She looks like she is trying real hard and really working at it. But towards the end is glad to focus on the male filming the session.

This takes away from her frustration at not being able to climax and lets her direct her energy towards him. I can totally relate!

It may have just been the aukward setting, but I can emphathize with her frustration. The way she was working so hard to get close to a climax is how I feel I feel I have to work most of the time.

I felt sorry for her as I was watching, understanding her frustration.

I thought those sybian things give a girl incredible stimulation, but she kept using her hand and moving as if she wasn't getting enough stimulation.

No wonder you said she is dead from the waist down.

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Originally posted by Marky777:
Sorry to butt in here, but 20 mins. seems like the ideal amount of time to me. I much prefer it when my wife takes a while to cum because it is more powerful for her and also, the longer it takes - the longer we are "at it"! You will probably attest to the fact that your husband is not worried about how much "effort" he has to put in. We love it!

Oh my husband doen't mind the effort.

I do.

Think about it like this: You've been "at it" for some time enjoying the pleasure of each others bodies and are now ready to climax and relax in bliss. You are right on the edge and want to climax, but it doesn't happen.

Instead, you have to use all your concentration and energy for the next 20 minutes. Until your wrist ache and your arm is tired and your legs are cramping because of the effort to stimulate to orgasm.

Not fun.

VBmama....I hear you! I know he doesn't mind but it makes me crazy and the longer it takes, the more my mind wanders, and the longer it takes, the more agitated I get, and the longer it takes!! Isn't it nice to know we have hope now and we don't have to feel sexually incompetent?!?!?

It used to take me forty minutes and my ex-husband very much did mind. That's why I am such a zealot with this. I've been there.

WoW, that is inspiring. Going from 40 minutes "What is it taking so long lady?" to "Spontaneous Orgasm Women".

So there is hope for me.

Yes. That's why I'm pushing so hard on this--I know what it's like.

How long did it take you to go from "Are we there yet?" to "Instant Orgasm Arrival"?

Weeks, months, Years???

I don't know, because I felt so bad about taking so long and my husband getting so impatient that he stopped giving me orgasms after the first year of marriage. I had them on my own, but I wasn't really paying attention to how long they took. And then I stumbled on my diet and I was able to have vaginal orgasms during sex--easily. As I got stronger tone they got faster.