A bit of background- My man & I have been together for almost 5 years now. We'd had a fairly good sex life until the beginning of '07; that's when my libido sort of dwindled away, and the stress's in my life were mounting- a new job with the usual learning curve; a not so supportive or helpful boss; the fact that the company was on the verge of going under & I was the one brought in to 'rescue' it; moving into a new apartment; being laid off from the new job; and some unresolved issues (which we are still working on) between my man & I- it's no surprise things cooled down for me. At that point our sex life had been reduced to once a month, sometimes longer than that, because I didn't have the need, wasn't in the mood, and couldn't get into the mood. Very frustrating for him and for me and it was taking a heavy toll on our relationship.

I found the diet in Self magazine early February and decided enough was enough; this sounded very doable and I began purchasing the vitamins & minerals mentioned in the article and ordered the book.

Within a few days of beginning the vitamins/minerals (I posted a lot of this in my '?'s RE..' under the womens diet section) Magnesium, Calcium, and Zinc, along with Vitamin E and a B complex I began feeling a new warmth and tingles in my lower lips that I haven't felt in a very long time, and noticed a marked increase in daily lubrication- I was fairly well damp almost all the time, enough so it was making me wonder if I should start wearing panty liners!- and had an erotic dream shortly after that. A nice start, I thought, especially since these are all things I used to have and then they went away. Hello, old friends! Good to see you again!

When the book arrived I read it cover to cover the same day and immediately began changing my way of eating- I'm a vegetarian that recently began eating seafood again, and used to eat lots and lots of tofu, soy products (Boca type burgers, sausages, etc.), drink soy milk (I don't like regular cow milk), drank 4-5 cups of strong coffee every morning, and ate lots of baked potatoes, pasta dishes, potato chips and so on...

I cut the 4-5 cups of coffee down to one and found that cup was sufficient for me; more than one and it just made me feel sort of queasy.

I've incorporated even more veggies into our diet, found I actually liked 70% cacao and that Lindt is a good brand, added more fish (Please note that Marrena has told me I should only be eating fish 2 times in a week!) and am trying to figure out the best way to add legumes as a main protien in our diet. My man is not a vegetarian and prefers his 'meat' to have a face, so that makes it a tad difficult for me and we are both trying to adjust to it.

Within another week I felt a little more interest in the idea of making love with my man, and noticed I wanted/needed more cuddling from him than previously. I was thrilled by this and after reading about L-Argnine I decided to add that to my diet as the fish oil was still a bit out of my price range.

I'm still not sure if that helped me or not, I didn't stay on it for very long.

I began having occasional erotic dreams, especially early in the morning, but no actual orgasms from them though that has happened to me in the past. I found another posting about that and decided to cut my coffee to a half caff mix (I grind my own beans).

About 2 1/2 weeks into the diet now and I realized that the tingles are gone, the extra lube was still there though not nearly as much as it had been, the sexy feelings had faded away and I was not a happy woman. I found myself becoming grouchy, emotionally sensitive, my man & I were having disagreements and long discussions about many different things after which I felt extremely insecure in our relationship, and was feeling down all the time.

I also noticed a crampy achy feeling deep inside where I've never ached before, except for PMS, and found a huge lump in my left breast. Now, I'm not too concerned about the lump as I've had many previously and they've all been no big deal (they've been biopsed, removed, or drained) they are just cysts and I get them occasionally. Has anyone else found one to pop up since starting the diet?

At any rate I've been keeping a close eye on the board and found a comment from Marrena saying that sometimes that grouchiness is an indication the body has desire and just hasn't quite expressed it yet. If I can find the posting I'll reference it here, I'm checking but can't remember which posting I saw it at. HA! Found it under the post titled "Research Validation", "...frustration is a good sign. The body gearing up to have these can make the mind feel a little grouchy, from the built-up sexual energy."

Okay.. at this point I decided to bite the bullet and found GNC was having a sale on their triple strength fish body oil, so I added that to my diet and began taking a multi-vitamin also. I stopped the B complex, Zinc and Vit. E as I got enough in the multi, and kept up the Magnesium because the multi didn't cover it.

Approx. 5 days after beginning with the fish oil (2 capsules, B&D) I was feeling pretty darn good and initiated sex for the first time in our relationship. I really wanted him and very shortly after we started touching each other I was flooded with moisture and didn't want/need as much foreplay as usual before I wanted him in me. The best part was that I had 3 vaginal orgasms within 5 minutes of intercourse! And two days later, sure enough we were at it again and I had another 2 vaginal O's! Lovely!!

I've added another F.O. (Sorry, I'm tired of spelling it out) to the diet, added it all up and found I was falling short in the DHA amount, so I added another 500mg capsule to my dinner dosage.

As of now my body is most definitely more 'itchy', I am feeling that warm tingly feeling nearly all day now, my lube has stayed the same (meaning I am secreting fluid all the time) and am wanting more alone time with my man. My body is close to what I felt when we first met, sadly though our relationship is in a down slump right now and we aren't as physical as I would now hope for. We are still talking about things and trying to work it all out, and when I am back to work that will help tremendously with these problems. My only reason for mentioning all this is so no one thinks it is due to my going on this diet.

I find when I masturbate my clitoral orgasms are a bit more intense than ever before, and my hips jerk much harder and sharper; the orgasm is almost painful in a sense because it's so strong, and the after shocks are lasting much longer than before. I find I'm ready and wanting another one in a much shorter amount of time than before and they come a bit quicker, too. In most cases, one orgasm hasn't been enough for me to feel satiated; I could have up to 5 in one lovemaking session, sometimes 10, usually from oral sex with or without added toys. Just for the record, those were/are all clitoral orgasms.

The ache deep inside that I spoke of? I've finally recognized it as desire! It feels odd to me because I've never had that type of crampy/ache (I don't know of another way to describe it) before being on the diet. Desire, yes. Just not in that manifestation!

I still haven't ordered my Gyneflex just yet and am looking forward to finding out how that increases my sensitivity and what it will add to our lovemaking. In the meantime I am concentrating on doing Kegels more regularly and holding them for longer periods of time before releasing the muscle.

All of this has occurred in the past 37 or so days. I've lost track of exactly when I started this journey so that's a guesstimate; I do know it was in the first week of February so that's close enough, I suppose.

I'm currently taking 1 multi-vitamin, 3 FO containing a mix of EPA & DHA, 1 extra DHA, 2 Magnesiums, 2 Calciums, and the chocolate on a daily basis.

Hope this encourages you to continue on with the diet, or to start it if you haven't already done so. I highly recommend it!

I forgot to mention this: My libido hasn't really kicked in yet, but then I've only been on a full dose of FO for about 1 1/2 weeks. I'm looking forward to seeing what that will be like!

Sounds like a very positive response to the diet. If I may offer a metaphor as a partial explanation for the grouchiness: when a hitherto still pond is stirred up, all the muck rises to the surface. Thus it could be interpreted as a good symptom. It would appear that things are "moving" in your life.

I meditate a lot, and sometimes after a real full on bliss-attack, I feel a bit grouchy the next day. Continued meditation seems to smooth it out for me.

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Originally posted by Huntng4Os:
The ache deep inside that I spoke of? I've finally recognized it as desire! It feels odd to me because I've never had that type of crampy/ache (I don't know of another way to describe it) before being on the diet. Desire, yes. Just not in that manifestation!

Yes, this is a common response, and many women find it very strange. It's sort of a "Oh! Now I get it!" and women suddenly start understanding more why men sometimes act the way they do. It is literally a visceral need for penetration. It's a very good sign for being on the way to vaginal orgasms.

Thank you so much for your detailed feedback!

Do you mind if I move this to the main section, since this directly pertains to being on the diet? I think it would be helpful for women interested in trying the diet to read about your experiences, and I'm worried it might be overlooked down here.

Sure, Marrena. I knew it was going to be a whole lot of words and figured this would be a better place for it, but feel free to move this where you feel it will encourage the greatest amount of women & men.

Marky777, thank you for your thought. It does make sense that things from the past would be stirred up in response to such a change in diet & manner of living.

Things are slowly improving for me, with a heavy emphesis <sp> on slowly.

I'm feeling a bit more sensual everyday and have been wanting more sex than previously; my face is a touch more oily than usual, though I prefer saying, "I'm glowing, dahling" ; my mood has been on an upward swing, though I'm not sure if that is due to the diet, or the fact that Spring is arriving, or the increased sunlight. Maybe all three.

I'm feeling low level tingles all the time now, unless I get focused on a project in which case I'm unaware of it. I'm finding it easier to fantasize and enjoy it, and it's a bit easier for me to come to orgasm. It doesn't take 10-20 minutes anymore! Well, maybe still 10, but it's getting better! <LOL>

I've increased my iron pill to every other day beginning 2 days ago, we'll see how that goes and I'll continue with this for longer than a week as I did with the L-Argnine. <smile> I was too impatient to wait for results. Darn this 'I want it NOW!' philosphy!

I don't know if this has anything to do with the diet, just thought I'd throw it out and see if anyone else has had this experience, too:

Lately it seems as if I just can NOT get warm at night! When I first get into bed I am cold, and it gets worse until I am shivering, then a little bit later I seem to warm up and I'm fine. We haven't adjusted the temp to a lower setting than usual, and I'm still wearing my so-unsexy long sleeve shirt and pants the same as always so I don't understand it.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I read the post titled "My results" by Kitten and found it jam packed with info that really helped me regain some perspective on the food part of the diet- I was starting to get a little crazy about what to eat, how much of it, and 'oh my gosh, I can't eat that it's a carb!'

Titania posted: <I've been reading more of your book, and maybe DHA wasn't so much of a problem for me in the first place. What you said about a woman with lots of DHA and no testosterone will want massages and pamper herself instead of having sex makes perfect sense- becuase that's how I was beofre cutting out a lot of bread and pasta.

Lol, I would say that I'm a typical low-serotonin type! I am messy, I don't even have a 'to-do list', I relax easily, and I have immense pleasure from listening to music- I often cry at it, dance with it, or turn it up really loud hehe! I have a fustratingly un-organized attitude to everything. >

I have to agree with her as I do a lot of what she wrote especially regarding the music and now that I think on it these past few years I've lost my enjoyment of it. I don't dance to it, turn it up, or even really think about it except as background noise and I hope this in another area this diet improves for me. I miss that so much and didn't even know it!

Okay, enough from me for today. How is everyone else doing???

Hunting40s, very interesting reading your well written and frank accounts.
As promised, here is my story. Not all of this relates to fish oil, but I need to give some background.

I have always had a high sex drive, but having just turned 41, found that I would sometimes feel a little low after ejaculation. My initial fix for this problem was to simply not cum every time we had sex. It took the wife a bit of getting used to, but now she actually prefers it. I have now gone on to only allowing myself one ejaculation every few weeks, and having tremendous fun with this. I am not recommending this practise to anyone else, but it works for us.

I "met" Marrena on another forum, and found out all about the fishy stuff. As the pleasure of orgasm is no longer on the table for me, I wanted to increase the sensations that simply thrusting could provide. I have found that the fish oil seems to do just that, particularly in the base of my dick, which causes me to want to really push hard and grind - wifey does not seem to complain either. She has also been on it, and has been making a bit more noise of late, so it seems to be working for her also.

Hi Marky777-

Thanks for sharing your history & experiences; I like learning about people & what they are like. Humans are so fascinating!

I've been checking around at different sites and found that ejaculation and orgasms are two different things for men; my question for you is: Are you orgasming without ejaculating? Or foregoing both? I would have to admit it would be very strange knowing your husband isn't ejaculation during lovemaking!

If I can remember the site about that would you be interested in seeing it?

I recently began looking at the Berman site and, of course, checked out Marrena's 17 page post and saw your posts there. I'm currently on the beginning of page 7 and I must admit you folks are funny! The latter half of page 6 was about commas, parantheses, astriks and so on. My kind of people!

Hunting40s-

I practice edging which is where you ride very close to the point of cumming, but not quite cresting over into orgasm. I have occasionally had very short peaks of pleasure that did not trigger ejaculation - I am still working on this. I would like to be able to seperate orgasm and ejaculation.

But there is another technique that involves getting so horny that you just dribble semen continuously, without the spasm of ejaculation. That is the best for me I think. I have had a certain ammount of succsess with that method, and intend to get better.

Ohhh its getting hot in here

Always happy to discuss with like minded people.

Sure, tell me about the other site.

Have you tried the Aneros? I can't remember which board you are from, forgive me. Prostate orgasms are non-ejaculatory, and different from "dry" regular orgasms, similar to the difference between prostate and clitoral orgasms in women.

Huntng4Os, I haven't heard of that in anybody else. If anything, with improved circulation from the fish oil women tend to be warmer, at least in their hands and feet.

Hi Marrena- Maybe I'm coming down with something, I don't know. It's odd how I'll get chills like that, then everything is fine. It usually lasts anywhere from 3-5 minutes and doesn't occur every night; out of the past 7 days it's happened 4 times. Weird.

My feet are usually chilled during the winter, but anytime I've gone to a Dr. they tell me my BP is fine. <shrug> Oh well.

Marky777- when I remember where exactly I saw that info I'll post it and let you know. It may have been in the Aneros site Marrena mentioned. Sorry!

What you describe sounds very uncomfortable to me, Marky777. I've been in situations where I was very aroused and couldn't/didn't orgasm; I was always bitchy afterwards until the arousal faded away. It never felt good and was painful at times. I guess you don't feel the same way?!?

Marrena - forum was TPs, actually, I left you a PM there over a month ago, but you don't seem to have picked it up.

No, have not tried the Aneros, but it's on my todo list. I don't know, you turn 40, and life just gets so full, and there is no off button.

Hunting40s - In the same way that what you described as a crampy ache turned out to be desire for penetration, what seems like an irritation - blue balls - can for some be a door way into another dimension of pleasure.

However, there is a whole world of difference between a lousy lover that leaves a woman almost but not quite reaching a climax, and the deliberate postponement or denial of orgasm. Women can do this too, but as they don't seem to lose libido after orgasm to the extent that a man does, it is probably less relevant.

When my wife sees that I am practically delirious while shagging her, I think she feels affirmed by it. Also, what I really like is the fact that without ejaculation, there is no refractory period, so even at my age (41), I can out perform an 18 year old, should the need arise! 6 times a day is no challenge at all.

oh god