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Hi Morrena,

I heard about your Orgasmic Diet from an article that was posted on msnbc.com. At first I thought I was already nearly following the same diet/lifestyle. I already eat an approx. 40/30/30 balance, exercise 30 min 5-6 days a week, take a multi-vit, plus a cal/magn/zinc supplement in the recommended range, extra vit c, and omega-3 sups. Still I was intrigued, so I bought your book yesterday and learned that, while I thought the omega-3 in flax was the same as fish oil, it is not. Interesting and Thank you for all of your hard work to develop this program and educate people!

Just FYI, I am orgasmic already, both vaginal and clitoral, more easily/quickly via manual stimulation, but also during intercourse, but not as often or easily as I'd like. Over the past few years I've been frustrated with decreased sensitivity, and increased difficulty orgasming, esp during intercourse.

So, yesterday I bought the GNC concentrated fish body oil, (EPA 290 mg - DHA 250 mg), plus some ghiradelli dark chocolate, and ordered the gynoflex (lite). I'll let you know how it goes.

re ramping up: In the book you mention "ramping up" over "a couple of weeks", but then I've also read (here or in the book, not sure) that we should start with 1 fish oil tablet and increase by 1 per week - that would take 7 weeks to get up to the recommended dosage (@ 150 lbs). Is it important to ramp up that slowly, or do most people increase the dossage more quickly? I'd sure like to see results sooner than that!

Also, I read that with quality fish oil like GNC, it's less likely to have the "fishy burbs" (which is why I always took Flax instead of fish oil in the past). I took one pill yesterday afternoon, and one this morning (both with food) and have been having fishy burps all morning - ick! Will this get better as my body adjusts?

Last question: I have mild GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) along with mild depression. I tend to be very sensitive to changes in brain chemicals like serotonin, neoreprinepherine, etc., and nearly all SSRIs and SSNIs cause me to have severe anxiety attacks. I take Buspar for anxiety and wellbutrin for depression - neither of these seem to have negative sexual side-effects like SSRIs (which cause me to be anaorgasmic, it should be a crime to prescibe these to women!!).

I'm wondering whether you have heard of anyone having any negative interactions between buspar and the fish oil, or increased anxiety in relation to increased dopamine levels due to fish oil? I will check with my doctors, but also wanted to see what you may have heard.

Thanks for your feedback!!

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Check to make sure the serving size of the fish oil is one capsule. I'm pretty sure that brand is good, but can't hurt--GNC has so many types of fish oil it's confusing.

I think in my book I was extra-cautious on the ramping up, because some people have sensitive stomachs. Most people at least on the 130-pound dose can ramp up in a couple weeks without discomfort. It doesn't sound like you are one of those people, unfortunately. You could spring for the more expensive fish oil, but if I were you I would just take a little extra time. I think you should anyhow, with your concern about your meds. Of course, check with your doctor. Generally drugs to be concerned about are drugs that have warning about taking with aspirin.

I doubt the dopamine would be a problem because wellbutrin raises dopamine, and you are already taking that. You might be able to decrease your wellbutrin dosage (under your doctor's supervision) when up to the full amount of fish oil.

As for serotonin, I found this link:

http://www.healthieryou.com/mhexpert/exp1041502a.html

But again, you are already taking wellbutrin which raises serotonin (although not to the degree as other SSRI's) so I don't know. Go slow, that's my advice.
 
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i am also having problems with the burping. i take the enteric coated (1200 mg. fish oil) capsules and still have the problem. right now i am up to 3 a day. morning ,noon, and night. should i take them different times of the day? or all at once?
a friend tells me she freezes her fish oil capsules to ward off the burping. is this harming the quality of the capsules? if not, i may try that.
i am still waiting for my book to get to me and i cannot find the dark dove chocolates. four other varieties tho! so what % of cacao dark choclate should i buy?
 
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70% if you can take it on the chocolate.

Freezing the fish oil shouldn't hurt it. Make sure to take with food and spread out during the day, and if the fishy burps don't go away, you might want to try a more refined brand--more EPA and DHA per capsule.
 
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Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for the feedback Marrena! Yesterday I took two (brkfst & dinner) today I'm going to try B, L, & D. I'll probably stay at that level for a few days and see how it goes.

I ordered the Life Extension Super Omega 3 (EPA 350/DHA 250 per softgel). It also contains some "Olive oil fruit extract" (300 mg) and Sesame Seed Lignan extract (10 mg). It says it's very refined and easy on the tummy, so I'll let you know how it goes. Those extras aren't going to interfere with the diet are they Marrena?

R&M what brand of fish oil are yo taking? Let us know if your burps get better.
 
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Sounds like a decent brand--the extras should be fine. Let me know how it goes.
 
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hi everyone,
i am taking fish oil i buy at Sam's Club. it is their brand "member's mark". it has EPA of 410mg - DHA of 274, with total 1200mg oils. i have the "carlson's super DHA" also but haven't started it yet. will let you know how the freezing of the capsules help. or not.

this is such a great website marrena. what a wonderful world the internet can be! i am new to the internet world. now i don't feel like i am in this alone. have been having problems since hysterectomy in 2000. am now 53 yrs. old. looking forward to trying this approach.

STILL waiting for the book! that might be good news for you, marrena. amazon might be waiting for restocking? Smiler
 
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That's funny! Did you buy the paperback or hardback?

You don't need the Super-DHA with that brand of fish oil, the Sam's Club seems to have the EPA and DHA in the right proportion.
 
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i bought the paperback.

i just happened on your book while visiting the "hisandherhealth" site. really am looking forward to reading it.
 
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The fish oil I use never gave fish burps. It is Nordic Naturals brand. Very high quality, purity. To cut down on capsules you can use their Ultimate Omega product. Doubly concentrated. To save a little money I tried another brand after my first container. That's when I discovered what fish burps are. Tastes like I'm licking a dead fish! I threw them out after 3 days and went back to Nordic Naturals. No more fish burps.
 
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Thanks for the info artlady. I was taking the GNC brand and quit because I could not stand the burps. I will try the Nordic Naturals. Are you using the Ultimate Omega with 650mg EPA and 450 mg DHA?
 
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Yes, Ultimate Omega with 650mg EPA and 450mg DHA is the one I use. By the way, that is the dose in TWO capsules, not one. My dose was 6 capsules a day which works out to 1950mg EPA and 1350mg DHA daily. I'd rather take 6 capsules than 12 regular. I'm giving myself a little break from this diet (see "Not working" thread) but I do plan to continue the healthy eating, the cal/mag/zinc, vit. C, and I do take the fish oil, but only 2 capsules now. And I'm definitely keeping the daily dark chocolate!!
 
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Hi Mareena & everyone, just thought I'd check back in.

Fergie, I started out taking the GNC brand fish oil and couldn't stand the fish burps. After just a few days I switched to Life Extension Super Omega 3 (EPA 350/DHA 250 per softgel) and rarely have fish burps - only if I take it on an empty stomach. I'm almost out of the LE brand, so I'm going to switch back to the GNC to see if the fish burps return. I'd like to use those up (they aren't cheap) but if the fish burps return I'll buy more of the LE, or maybe I'll try the Nordic Naturals.

So, back to the update - I took 3 of the LE softgels, 1 at each meal, for about the first week, then went to 2 at each meal for about two weeks now. (I actually thought it had been at least 3 weeks at 1500 DHA/day, so I'm glad I posted here when I started so I could check back on the dates.) I also eat the dark chocolate every day, and follow most of the other recommendations. So far I think there is a slight increase in the frequency and ease of reaching the big O, but not a huge difference.

Since I was thinking it had been 3 weeks and since I wasn't seeing a huge improvement I uped my dose a couple of days ago to 7 a day (2@B, 2@L, 3@D) so that would be 1750 DHA, which is probably closer what I should be taking at 150 lbs. I'll have to go check the book again.

Anyhow, I'm mid-cycle now. Another two weeks or so will be AF, so I'm thinking it may be a couple of weeks after that (mid-march) before I really know for sure if it's working. We'll see.

I'll check back in a couple of weeks if not before Smiler
 
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Yes please! Let me know how it goes.
 
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