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Can you describe what the different Chakra Orgasms feel like? How do they differ from Clitoral or Vaginal Orgasms?
Steve
 
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Vaginal orgasms feel like men's prostate orgasms. Clitoral orgasms feel like a man's dry orgasm (regular male orgasm without ejaculation).

I think on the higher chakras the sexes are divided--I definitely pour out at the fourth and take in at the sixth. And the seventh is just freaky.

Fourth chakra orgasm there is an involuntary spasming of the chest, as if a heartwrenching feeling became pleasurable and tied in with the timing of a regular type of orgasm, the spasms in time with a regular orgasm's contractions. There is a tremendous feeling of outpouring, as if all my sexual energy shoots out of my chest in spurts in time with the chest contractions. Sometimes my back goes rigid in an arch, sometimes I faint, I often burst into tears afterwards. The orgasm is entirely centered in the chest, but flows out to the rest of the body.

Likewise the sixth chakra is centered in the forehead and frontal lobe, and there is a strong sensation when it happens all the way down to the neck, and then it flows out to the rest of the body. It feels almost as if I am being penetrated by a man's horns, two horns coming out from the forehead and crossing at my third eye, penetrating back.

My third eye is also very sensitive to physical touch. Rubbing it will often cause a spontaneous orgasm.

The crown chakra orgasm I only had once. Not really my thing. I know a lot of people are into that, but for me it almost felt like an autonomic nervous reaction, where the body just vented the excess sexual energy out the top of the head. Vented is a rather strong word, it felt like it bubbled over in a thick fluid that then trickled down my scalp, like a hot oil treatment. There was an odd smell like potroast too. I lost all sense of self and time, I think I was out for about fifteen minutes.

"Out" doesn't really describe it. Very much a one with the universe thing and I was fully conscious. I just lost the ego. It also caused me to temporarily lose my sense of fear, which wasn't exactly a good thing. Fear is a good motivator--it took about a month for it to come back.
 
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Do you have control over the Chakra Orgasms? Or how do they get set off?

I'm mostly interested in the Heart Chakra. I think I somehow set one off in a casual sex partner many years ago. It totally freaked her out. She wouldn't talk about it and we did not have sex again. I wanted to explore. From what I saw it was a good thing. But it looked like there was also a huge emotional release going on.

Do you find the Heart Chakra Orgasm an overall pleasurable experience and one that you desire or strive for?
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The fourth and sixth are set off with my tulpa. The seventh was accidental--I was trying for a sixth chakra orgasm, and I happened to be sitting up in a chair at my desk, so instead of the energy staying put, it floated up and out, like a bubble trapped under water when the thing holding it down tilts. Since then I have been careful to try for sixth chakra orgasms while lying down. I'm relatively sure that's why the yab yum position is used in tantra; I think the upright position helps the crown chakra orgasms. Again, not my thing.

Heart chakra orgasms in my own experience are more of a necessary thing than anything else. I generate a tremendous amount of sexual energy with the dozens of vaginal orgasms I have a day. The only way I have found to release it is through lots of female ejaculation (which is tiring) or having a heart chakra orgasm. The heart chakra orgasm feels more natural, and very womanly.

I have had heart chakra orgasms with casual sex partners; I am used to the sensation. I have learned not to, however, for it seems to change the men somehow and they get interested in a more serious relationship. Perhaps it is an effect of the energy being received into their chests? In any case, it is a very emotional sensation, and I personally think the highest pleasure a woman can achieve. If I could only have one sort of orgasm, I would choose the heart chakra orgasm. I think typical New Age tantra is mistaken to always push women towards crown chakra orgasms; I think it is the natural path for a woman to release through the heart.
 
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Interesting, set off with your Tulpa. When you have the Heart Chakra Orgasm with a partner does he tell you that he felt/feels an energy transfer?

Even with casual relationships better sex enhances closeness, but you find that the men want to ignore the previous agreed to bounds, even to the point that it ruins a good thing. In my case it almost felt like she was giving off sparks, like a buzz, I had a clear sense of her energy, but I can't say that I absorbed anything. But I was happy with the way things were, she pulled away.

I like massage but most women seem to think massage goes beyond the bounds of casual sex. So I cheat and use a bit of massage in foreplay. With this woman I was using a technique called connections. Genital massage with one hand alternating on some other part of the body with the other, shoulders, lower back, breasts, etc. What this does is associate genital stimulation with the stimulation of other massaged areas leading, hopefully, to more of a full body orgasm.

This particular evening I was focused on her breasts, cupping, swirling and particularly figure eights. The figure eights were crossing between her breasts in the area that is the center of the Heart Chakra. (hindsight, 20 years ago I couldn't explain it)

Do you think that this opened her or prepared her in some way for a Heart Chakra Orgasm? Or is Tulpa focus the only way?

Are Chakra orgasms balanced in intensity with regular orgasms? In her case normal orgasm was low key, quiet. The upper body orgasm was intense, a release.
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I have clandestinely given men heart chakra orgasms during social hugs. Sometimes there is a quality in a man, an "open-heartedness" that draws the energy out.

Naked chest-to-chest contact can encourage this, particularly if the lower body is clothed.

Also looking at pictures of the head and torsos of men, if they have a soulful look in their eyes. Direct eye contact is very good for drawing the energy out.

Unlike a clitoral or vaginal orgasm that is almost an automatic bodily reaction, like a sneeze, a heart chakra orgasm seems to need a sex object to help it along.

I would assume chest massage would also be helpful, but I think more than anything it is the look of a man hungry for it that elicits it, just like a woman with a sexually hungry face can elicit ejaculation in a man.

You may not have absorbed anything if your heart chakra was not open to it. I have been with some men who are like Barbie dolls that way, no opening. Smiler Roll Eyes I know this sounds very strange.

As for intensity, it's really hard to throw around adjectives describing the different types, the descriptions need more than one word, and it's really like comparing apples to oranges. In the same way a regular orgasm is like a sneeze, a heart chakra orgasm is like watching something that elicits pathos.

If you had a woman excitedly rubbing her naked chest against yours like she was screwing your chest with an invisible cock, with an action like an orgasm at the end, and she asked you "Did you feel it?" I would assume most men would say, "Why yes." So just because they say it doesn't mean anything.
 
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So she could have been sensing an open-heartedness in me that drew the energy out of her, really accidently, and I would have had to be prepared and receptive to it in order to receive it.

Now would or does this transfer of energy cause me to have a Heart Chakra Orgasm? or do I just feel energy.

I get your point about answering yes to keep from hurting your feelings. But lying in this situation would seem to be counterproductive. It seems to me that honesty and communication are essential here for growth.

Reminds me of a favorite song lyric, "Honest is easy, fiction is where genius lies".
Go with honest it's easier.
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I don't know--I've read men can have them, but what they describe sounds different, passive--which makes sense.
 
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Can you recommend a book with good basic information to learn from and to be used as a reference?
I have found scattered info but not good info all in one text.
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Maybe you can explain something weird that has been happening to me.

Twice in the past few months while building toward orgasm I began giving off huge amounts of heat from my upper chest and neck. No other sensations involved just heat, to the point where my face begins to sweat.

I don't know how to cause it or what causes it, the rest of my body is normal temp.

I have heard a man describe an approaching, maybe?? Heart Chakra opening as energy beginning to migrate up to the chest from the pelvic region. But for me the heat doesn't seem to be coming from anywhere it is just there, building.

Ring any bells with you?
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Sounds more like regular sexual flush to me. I've never had a feeling of heat with heart chakra orgasms--energy, yes, heat, no.

I get that too during sex, where my upper body turns very red.

As for books, I've found the ones that are useful I disagree with half the stuff in them. The closest I've come is an online manual, I will post a link when I get home, it's blocked here at work. But even there the guy says some flakey things.

Most chakra masters like Mantak Chia and other tantrikans are focused so strongly on the crown chakra orgasm and enlightenment, that I can't really take them seriously. I think sexual energy is there to be shared in the pattern of a lovers' knot, an 8. I think the seventh chakra is a safety valve to allow for a quick venting of the sexual energy if it builds up too strongly, but the goal is to pass the energy back and forth between a man and a woman--second, fourth and sixth.

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Yes I look for this flush on women as a signal of approaching orgasm. I think that only about 30% of women do this. But I never felt heat off it.

Was is necessary for you to become multiple before you were able to open your Chakras? Did you need the energy.
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I really don't know. I didn't even know what a chakra was--after a couple years of having several dozen vaginal orgasms a day, I started getting this odd and very pleasurable feeling in my chest. I was worried it was some kind of freaky angina, so I did some hunting around online and found out what was happening to me. Kind of like a tantric puberty. I didn't set out to have higher chakra experiences, although once I knew about them I did try for the sixth chakra orgasms.

Here's that link:

http://www.mumyouan.com/i/ae-8a.html
 
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You said your Heart Chakra Orgasms seems to change men so you hold off. I think somewhere else you said a Tantric teacher told you that that the transfer of HCO energy could cause psychosis in someone. (if unprepared or unopen) What was the Tantric name for this?

One of the things I find with reading Tantra info is that a lot of it was written so as to shroud it in mysticism, add translation error and you end up with some real confusion. From what you have said it sounds like some of it was written by people without a true understanding, adding of course, to the mystery.

We pick up bits and pieces from people as we go along. 30+ years ago I worked with a guy who claimed to be multiorgasmic. He explained the techniques to suppress ejaculation but stimulate the... "something tantric" to trigger orgasm did not make sense. His Chakra explanations did not sound believable to me at the time.
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She didn't give me a tantric name for it, just said "kundalini psychosis."

The taobums really know a lot more about this than I do. Particularly if you are wanting to advance; I can only give advice from a woman's point of view, and it's different.
 
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