http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-09/w-gmb090408.php

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"...penile-vaginal orgasm is associated with indices of better relationship quality," the authors state. Research has linked vaginal orgasm to better mental health."

"see, honey, it says right here..."

Ok, so longer strides and obvious swaying of the hips will make it look like I have orgasmic ability?

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Ok, so longer strides and obvious swaying of the hips will make it look like I have orgasmic ability?

Who comes first, the chicken or the egg?

The article says maybe women with an energetically or functionally more free pelvis are more likely to have orgasms in the first place.

"Paging Dr. Reich... Dr. Wilhelm Reich"

I was reading the other day about a woman who coaches other women on increasing their attractiveness to men. She advises women hold their legs closer together when they walk, which (if I have this right) makes the hips sway.

I wonder how that walk would be analyzed by the sexologists in this study.

Remember Marilyn Monroe's gait? Think of her in "Some Like it Hot", for example.

Bonaparte, your reference put me in mind of a book I saw years ago. It was by Dr Kathleen Vaughan (1938) and showed footprints made by a woman with good pelvic development compared with one with poor pelvic development. I did find a reference to it just now (below) and it does include a diagram (attached) which illustrates the difference between a good and a poor pelvis.

As I remember she made the point that gait was a far better indication of health than a simple measurement of the width of the pelvis (what we might now call the waist/hip ratio) because what really counts is the roundness of the inside of the pelvis. I would love to see her footprint diagrams again – even better to see these gaits on YouTube!

Title: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
Author: Weston A. Price
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html


“Dr. Vaughan's work places emphasis on the necessity that the human body be properly built, especially that of the mother-to-be. She shows clearly that the shape of the pelvis is determined by the method of life and the nutrition.

In all primitive tribes living an outdoor life childbirth is easy and labor is of short duration. She shows that this is associated with a round pelvis and that the distortion of the pelvis to a flattened or kidney shape, even to a small degree, greatly reduces the capacity and therefore the ease with which the infant head may pass through the birth canal.

In Dr. Vaughan's wide experience she has observed two ways by which a rough estimate of the pelvic shape and capacity may be anticipated:

first, by the gait of the individual, because the angle of the hips is determined by the shape of the pelvis;

and second, by the teeth and jaws.

She has recognized an association between facial and dental arch deformities and deformed pelvis.”

Diagrams from:
http://www.healingourchildren.net/safe_natural_birth.htm

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In all primitive tribes living an outdoor life childbirth is easy and labor is of short duration.

Now that so many more girls and women in the US are playing sport- soccer, basketball (at least it seems that way compared to what I remember 40 years ago) I wonder if this will mean easier childbirth for them.

I doubt that will make a huge difference. Over-exercise is bad for the pelvises of most women, especially that type of athletic exercise(hunting style) for which men's pelvises have evolved.

Weston Price, Kathleen Vaughan, Michael Colgan, and many others have shown nutrition to be pre-eminently the most important factor. This is not to discount the importance of moderate exercise (e.g. barefoot dancing such as primitive people enjoy) and other health measures).

I believe Marrena's diet has the potential to improve a great deal more than just orgasms (important though they may be).

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I think, rather, it's the vaginal orgasmic ability that affects the style of gait, men notice me in particular when I'm walking. I think it's part of the sexual signaling.

Although I also think that my diet helps ease childbirth.

Very interesting article!

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...men notice me in particular when I'm walking. ....
Very interesting article!

Yes, Bonaparte has opened up a fascinating subject. In a fruitless search for videos which could illustrate these gaits I came upon the following page:

A Woman's Sexy Gait Is Not Related to Her Sex Drive

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Woman-039-s-Sexy-Swung-G...ex-Drive-71913.shtml

Hmmmmm. I have clitoral orgasms, quite easily, from penile-vaginal intercourse and always have, but I don't have vaginal orgasms. I wonder what my walk looks like? LOL!

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...I wonder what my walk looks like? LOL!

Either of the two below?

I am beginning to have doubts about all this I must admit...

I am still trying to work out what is meant by a sexy walk. I found these examples on YouTube. They just look weird to me.

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=q0QcIZMluJw&feature=related

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=AFF2HTVJ6UM&feature=related

I also found instructions on how to perform a sexy walk. The idea is to look like a fashion model, gawky and tottering. Hardly the dignified sway which really does look sexy (in my view).

http://www.ehow.com/how_2105058_walk-sexy.html

I cannot believe this has much to do with behaviour which has been inate for 150,000 years, more like a convention developed in the last few decades. The critic below makes some good points. Mainly that every participant in the test could have had his or her own agenda. Still fascinating though!

http://foottalk.blogspot.com/2007/11/sexy-walking-cunning-little-eve.html

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I saw those youtube 'sexy walks' and I'm not a man of course, but I didn't think the girl with the short skirt and the pink shirt looked sexy at all! It looks like she walks with her legs slightly apart in a too short skirt with no bra. My first thought was 'wow, she's trashy. Does she want to look like a rapistmagnet?' But maybe thats the womens reaction to seeing another girls sexual behavior.

Still the walk with the legs slightly apart... I can't say why, but I don't like it, nor think its sexy.

Whats the men's opinion about this?

Hmmm.... sexy? It certainly helps to have an attractive, shapely, trim female with no bra in this video. I was immediately drawn to her free bouncing chest as I tend to prefer her type of breasts that are not too big, not too small, but firm and well shaped. The lack of bra in this case showed them off. Now to the gait...I'd have to say it is somewhat sexy at least. Basically the way she walks appears as though she is confident, open, content, and would probably be approachable for a conversation. She does seem as though she is moving sort of fast with those long strides though as though she certainly has some place to be because she will be getting there quick.

Yes, this probably is sexy. How sexy...I'd have to see comparitive video of other walk styles. I don't really think she looks trashy. She's not really dressed like a hooker. Lots of women wear somewhat short skirts. The lack of a bra indicates she is somewhat free spirited - but from a guys point of view that is probably good. I'd think her more trashy if she had heavier makeup, extremely tight and short outfit - to the point of bad taste, and probably some odd jewelry. This gal looks fairly casual to me. I'd say 'hi' to her.

Maybe its different where you come from. In the Netherlands, I don't think I ever saw a women walking on the street with no bra... seriously. Is that more common in the USA?

Your right, she's not covered in bling and not powdered to the point you can see the cracks in her face. Alrighty, her face looks pretty fresh, and I used to wear my hair like that often.

But if that girl, would walk through a city in The Netherlands like that alone... I would have thought she was downright stupid! (We Dutch people have a major problem, like France and Belgium, there are many... I don't really know how to call it so lets say import-people from the sixties. The worst come from Marocco. They have wrong morals. If a women doesn't walk around in a burkah or is at least pretty covered, she's for the taking. Its a disease, those boys. They always want confrontation, and pools in the city have to be closed regularly because the Maroccan boys think they can touch and try to have sex with our young nonsuspecting Dutch girls (especially the blonds) only because they wear a bikini. If the gal from youtube would walk the streets of a normal city alone... she would be asking to get raped. Its a shame, because there are many very nice hardworking Marrocans, but the focus is on those horrible gangs.)

I'm in college and if a girl wearing only that would walk into class, my classmates would notice immediately and probably try and get her to wear something because it looks desperate.

But maybe thats the klimate. There's barely reason to wear so little clothing. Our klimate is like that of the UK, lots and lots of rain and clouds, so our perception of 'trashy' or 'desperate' is probably diffrent from that in warmer klimates.

A sexy walk is probably a bit like how a model walks.

Hm, I don't know. I heard more than one guy say he hated the way models walk because it looks ridiculous to him.

Maybe all guys have a diffrent taste?