You might want to try edging. Also the Aneros can give some men that over-the-top pleasure. And of course you could try my diet--high dopamine increases pleasure.

Interesting topic with interesting replies At the moment I'm trying to introduce my boyfriend to tantra. He is not very spiritual, but is very open-minded, and understands deep emotional concepts. He has never done any spiritual practice before, but I just want to show him the physical benefits first before throwing him in at the deep end.

He's 21, gets hard easily, and keeps it quite well depending on the position, and can last very long if need be. He has excellent ejaculation control due to years of 'stop-starting' type of masturbation. In fact sometimes he has trouble coming, (it has nothing to do with over-masturbating or excessive porn).


Anyway, I am familiar with basic taosim, and have heard that there is a spot between the anus and balls that feels like a round indent in the skin. When a man approaches orgasm, and squeezes his pc muscles really tight, along with pressing this spot he can stop himself ejaculating, - whilst still having an orgasm.

Can anyone tell me more about this?

I'm not really the best person to answer! Try over at the taobums, they know their stuff.

Titania,
The 'spot' you are referring to is the external prostate spot. An external spot used to give a prostate massage. I have had good results when a girlfriend did it however I can't apply the correct pressure solo. (man lying on back start exploring about 1 1/4" above the anus) Second knuckle pressure worked for me.

What you are talking about is extended orgasm. For men ejaculation shuts down the orgasm process. So if we can prevent ejaculation we can orgasm indefinitely. Orgasm and ejaculation are actually separate things.

The theory here is that a man can use pc muscles to suppress ejaculation, then use continuing stimulation or pressure the external prostate spot to set off extended "dry" orgasms.

A good book on the subject is ESO "Extended Sexual Orgasm" by Alan P. Brauer. It provides explanations, tips and methods for hours of exploration. For women and men.
Steve

Titania,
I should add that many men are disappointed when PC muscle control doesn't allow them to control ejaculation as a method leading to multiple "dry" orgasms (as various eastern techniques seem to promise). I tried this 30 years ago and it didn't work for me. It suppresses temporarily.

Think about it, if men develop their PC muscles to control ejaculation this is also developing their ejaculatory muscles, equally. Suppression is stronger and ejaculation is stronger. I don't see how it can work.

I think the technique is to relax the ejaculatory muscles (to prevent ejaculation) and to stimulate the prostate to achieve dry orgasm. I can do these separately and am trying to learn how to do them simultaneously. I think that the 'taoist' trick is using the PC muscles to stimulate the prostate to multiple dry orgasms, which I also need to learn how to do.
Steve

You are correct in that.

Reverse Kegels will stop ejaculation. That's a pushing out with the muscles.

Darsemnos, just read my posts above and you will see that I (a male) am experiencing the type of orgasms and pleasure you describe - so yes, it is possible, but it is a journey and you have to learn.

On the other hand, generally speaking I know what you mean about the pleasure many women seem to have with sex. I find it ironic that women after experiencing these feelings aren't just trying to have every guy they see, kind of like us guys are about girls. However I suppose that is a function of testosterone and guys have more of that than girls. Thoughts?

I read that ESO book years ago, and "came" back to it about 2 years ago. I highly reccomend it.

Basically the male technique results in a kind of edging that causes semen to just dribble out slowly for half an hour, accompanied by the most pleasant sensations.

The femal techinque is totally different, and mostly involves the G spot. The CDS was not talked about in those days, but boy if they were to re-write it...